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Title: Simply's Customs [1/24 Scarah Screams Pg. 2!]
Post by: Simply Indescribable on March 22, 2017, 10:34:21 PM
I'm going to go ahead and turn this into my general customs thread c: I'll keep the initial post under the cut just as a future reference, but now that my first is done, I'm itching to do a second, and third, and all of my dolls!

I have an Etsy shop (https://www.etsy.com/shop/SweetBats) set up, and I am interested in taking commissions at some point, so if you're interested in having your own made, let me know and we'll work something out!

Finished Dolls
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Title: Re: First custom, aaaaaa
Post by: Rhana on March 23, 2017, 04:24:46 PM
She's gorgeous! <3
Title: Re: First custom, aaaaaa
Post by: Simply Indescribable on March 23, 2017, 06:18:43 PM
She's gorgeous! <3
I appreciate it! <3

I added a bit more last night, and now that I have good lighting, realized I sealed in pastels that spread where they shouldn't have gone, so she's likely getting wiped and redone. Hopefully round two will have a better base and colors will stay now that I've had some time to play around with MSC!

edit: yup, wasn't using MSC correctly in the priming stage and stained the doll, oops. Luckily it's in areas I'd be drawing over anyways, and should be fixable.
Title: Re: First custom, aaaaaa
Post by: Sirenamber on April 08, 2017, 02:04:10 PM
Oooooh beautiful!!
Title: Re: First custom, aaaaaa
Post by: Simply Indescribable on April 09, 2017, 11:08:51 AM
Oooooh beautiful!!
Thank you!
I've since wiped and redone her, but painted the whites of her eyes with acrylic paint in an attempt to mask the staining, then the pencils didn't go on as smooth, so she got wiped again. Third time's the charm hopefully!
Title: Re: First custom, aaaaaa
Post by: DogMom on April 09, 2017, 11:16:55 AM
Please share some more WIP pics, even of mistakes!  I'm still working up to trying a faceup, would love to see errors and how you corrected them and outcomes!
Lisa
Title: Re: First custom, aaaaaa
Post by: Simply Indescribable on April 09, 2017, 01:23:45 PM
Please share some more WIP pics, even of mistakes!  I'm still working up to trying a faceup, would love to see errors and how you corrected them and outcomes!
Lisa
Once I get around to it, I for sure will! I'm moving across the world on the 19th, so no time for anything crafty right now!
I will say my error with the paints probably came from not watering it down at all, so it built up, wasn't a smooth surface, and left jagged pencil lines.
I found a few pictures I took of it, linking below. You can see the staining around the mouth where I sealed in pastels from my first attempt, lol. I only did one layer of pencils and that was enough to realize this run wasn't going to get saved. Always fix mistakes as you go, don't try to cover them up later!
(https://i.imgur.com/O3Bu6i5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Eirr5yb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hoKssGd.jpg)
Title: Re: First custom, aaaaaa
Post by: DogMom on April 09, 2017, 03:44:11 PM
Thanks for the pics Simply! And good luck with your move...that's a big one!
Title: Re: First custom, aaaaaa
Post by: Simply Indescribable on May 05, 2017, 12:24:12 PM
Okay, feeling really good about the third attempt!
(https://i.imgur.com/vkqtIDi.jpg)
Finally got a proper respirator as well, prior to moving I only had one that was more for painting or sanding, not spraying, but luckily I hardly sprayed so I hopefully didn't do any damage. Always stay safe! I'm keeping the filters in an airtight container when not in use to prolong their life as much as possible.
The weather here is getting nice and the extended sunlight hours mean this is a good time for repaint work and spraying MSC without it bubbling (it was 64F earlier, and currently 9pm with some sun still up and only 58F).

(https://i.imgur.com/404k70D.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ld0GIVM.jpg)
Lagoona's been waiting patiently for her new face, here she is all protected before and while the base layers of MSC were put down. I have a nice little balcony to do my work on, with minimal dirt/dust blowing onto the faceup.

(https://i.imgur.com/W82tBVm.jpg)
After the first layer of pencils and a bit of blush. Previous attempts have left a bit of staining on the lips and eyes, so I'm sticking with the same colors from those to minimize the risk of anything contrasting and looking odd.

(https://i.imgur.com/bUima10.jpg)
Round two of pencils. Building up the color and defining the eyes with black instead of grey-blue. Really happy with the brows!

(https://i.imgur.com/9m6Hkti.jpg)
Eyelashes! Having a really difficult time getting the white to stick on the eyes, so out she goes for another layer of sealant. It shows up well enough on camera, but in person and drawing it on feels like nothings happening. Maybe it's her skintone looking so similar to the white pencil? Pink doesn't really show up either though. Also having a tough time building up darker colors for the pupil, so hopefully when I pick up next the sealant will have given a nice layer for the pencils to grip to.

So far I'm really happy with this one and glad I had the prior two attempts on her so I could get a good feel for everything! Also I can't mess up and redo it because I have no acetone and can't make the hour tram and bus trip to get it lol
Title: Re: First custom, aaaaaa
Post by: Lhianneth on May 05, 2017, 05:32:45 PM
You can remove the sealant/new paintjob with ethyl alcohol, actually! It's not as durable as the factory face-up, and the alcohol reacts with the sealant, like a solvent.

Out of curiosity, how long are you waiting after spraying to work on her?
How much are you spraying?
And what kind of materials are you using for the face-up?

I find that some of my pencils have issue with grip if I spray too heavily, particularly darker colours. This applies for pastels, as well, no matter what colour they are. As for white and pink, they're generally just a bit transparent and require more coats anyway. I usually use a very heavily watered down white acrylic paint to fill in the eye whites if I can't get the pencils on smoothly or opaquely enough.
 
Title: Re: First custom, aaaaaa
Post by: Simply Indescribable on May 06, 2017, 12:35:46 AM
You can remove the sealant/new paintjob with ethyl alcohol, actually! It's not as durable as the factory face-up, and the alcohol reacts with the sealant, like a solvent.

Out of curiosity, how long are you waiting after spraying to work on her?
How much are you spraying?
And what kind of materials are you using for the face-up?

I find that some of my pencils have issue with grip if I spray too heavily, particularly darker colours. This applies for pastels, as well, no matter what colour they are. As for white and pink, they're generally just a bit transparent and require more coats anyway. I usually use a very heavily watered down white acrylic paint to fill in the eye whites if I can't get the pencils on smoothly or opaquely enough.
 

I prefer the acetone to nail polish remover or other options since it takes the factory paint off so easily, but in a pinch I can definitely purchase something less strong.

I think these had like an hour between sprays and resuming work, though I think I may have gone a little heavy (trying to ensure the grooves in the eyes were sufficiently covered may have meant too much sealant was sprayed on). Pencils are Derwent watercolors, pastels were a rather cheap set since I figured I wouldn't be using them as much as the pencils. I might have to go with the paint, but we'll see how the pencils stick after this next round. It's just disheartening seeing the faceup channels and watching their whites go on so smooth and perfect and I'm sitting here like "Why won't the color transfer???" I'm hoping it's just due to Lagoona being such a pale doll, but I'll find a way to make it work!
I also have PearlEx that I'm really excited to play with on the dolls <3 And a Tamiya gloss for the lips (maybe eyes, haven't decided yet)
Title: Re: First custom, aaaaaa
Post by: writtenhuman on May 06, 2017, 07:31:06 AM
Wow, you've got some beautiful work done on her so far. Do you do other forms of art?
Title: Re: First custom, aaaaaa
Post by: SaelaVe on May 06, 2017, 08:09:43 AM

I think these had like an hour between sprays and resuming work, though I think I may have gone a little heavy (trying to ensure the grooves in the eyes were sufficiently covered may have meant too much sealant was sprayed on). Pencils are Derwent watercolors, pastels were a rather cheap set since I figured I wouldn't be using them as much as the pencils. I might have to go with the paint, but we'll see how the pencils stick after this next round. It's just disheartening seeing the faceup channels and watching their whites go on so smooth and perfect and I'm sitting here like "Why won't the color transfer???" I'm hoping it's just due to Lagoona being such a pale doll, but I'll find a way to make it work!
I also have PearlEx that I'm really excited to play with on the dolls <3 And a Tamiya gloss for the lips (maybe eyes, haven't decided yet)

Just some advice.  MSC takes quite a while to fully cure (around 12 hours), so it is highly recommended that you wait a while between spraying and painting.  I know 12 hours seems like a bear, and for those of us who are impatient (like myself) you want to dive right into painting just as soon as the doll feels dry, but the wait is worth it.  You'll notice the difference in how smoothly your pencils go on and how rich the color is if you give the MSC a longer dry/cure time before working.  I recommend at least 6 hours if you can't wait the full 12.  This craft is definitely a case of "slow and steady wins the race".

Be very careful with how much you spray.  A light mist is really all that you need.  You want the doll to have a sheen, but not appear visibly wet.  If it looks wet, you've sprayed too much; and too much MSC will build up and make painting that much more difficult.
Title: Re: First custom, aaaaaa
Post by: Simply Indescribable on May 06, 2017, 08:52:37 AM
Wow, you've got some beautiful work done on her so far. Do you do other forms of art?
Not as much anymore, but I do draw; my avatar is actually a self-portrait from quite some time ago. Thank you!

Just some advice.  MSC takes quite a while to fully cure (around 12 hours), so it is highly recommended that you wait a while between spraying and painting.  I know 12 hours seems like a bear, and for those of us who are impatient (like myself) you want to dive right into painting just as soon as the doll feels dry, but the wait is worth it.  You'll notice the difference in how smoothly your pencils go on and how rich the color is if you give the MSC a longer dry/cure time before working.  I recommend at least 6 hours if you can't wait the full 12.  This craft is definitely a case of "slow and steady wins the race".

Be very careful with how much you spray.  A light mist is really all that you need.  You want the doll to have a sheen, but not appear visibly wet.  If it looks wet, you've sprayed too much; and too much MSC will build up and make painting that much more difficult.
Thanks! I do have a hard time finding the right balance in spray amount. I left it alone from the time I made the large post until now, and the pencils are still not wanting to grip so I think I sprayed a bit too much; at this point it's probably best to water down some paint to try to get the scleras white like I want.
Title: Re: First custom, aaaaaa
Post by: Simply Indescribable on May 08, 2017, 12:39:58 PM
And I'm going to call this faceup done!
Sun's setting here so I couldn't get the greatest pictures right now, but I'm too excited and want to share!
(https://i.imgur.com/7ilbxsf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uxZTPNQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vTCK6fa.jpg)

Also my cat just had to be a part of this
(https://i.imgur.com/Ya4ONKX.jpg)

So for the future, I think I'll want to put the brows a bit higher and lengthen the lashes, and build up a bit more color variation in the eyes, snd lay down pastels on the eyes FIRST. I used like three or four greens plus green PearlEx powder, but it all kinda blends together, and the eyeshadow pastels got muddy pretty quick. The PearlEx on her eyelids and cheeks turned out nice though, and saved the pastel eyeshadow IMO. Her hair is also pretty bad, so I'm likely going to be cutting it all out and she'll be used for wig practice too.

Any suggestions or critique super welcome! I'm excited to do more faceups and improve <3
Title: Re: First custom, aaaaaa
Post by: DogMom on May 08, 2017, 02:45:20 PM
Beautiful! Love the eyebrows and lips, gorgeous! And THANK YOU for all the WIP pics and info. Love your 'crafting balcony' lol.

My only thing is the black pupils seem a bit small, for how I like eyes. But otherwise truly a lovely Lagoona!
Title: Re: First custom, aaaaaa
Post by: Konzern on May 08, 2017, 07:54:28 PM
That lip color is really pretty!  And I think your cat did the best photobomb!
Title: Re: First custom, aaaaaa
Post by: Simply Indescribable on May 09, 2017, 03:33:35 AM
Thanks DogMom! I'll experiment with pupil sizes; normally with my digital art I make the pupil somewhat small and surround it with darker shades of the iris color, but there's a big difference between how colors work on dolls vs. computers! I also forgot to add white paint for eye highlights, so that's something for the next doll. Hoping to buy acetone today and get started on a few more. But who to paint first???

Thank you Konzern! It's a mix of pastels and pencils with a gloss applied on top, I like the way it turned out also! And yes, she doesn't photograph well but it certainly doesn't stop her from leaping into pictures anyways!



(https://i.imgur.com/X7LKJLQ.jpg)
Any suggestions on who to work on next? I'll be doing Elle since she's already wiped, but I'm wanting to take a couple more at once so I can keep working between spraying <3
edit: had some suggestions from some friends, one said Venus and Clawdeen, the other said Scarah and Spectra. I grabbed one of the Rochelle's since her hair was awful and I wanted to see if it was able to be saved, and I'll be taking on Clawdeen and Spectra as well. So excited!
Title: Re: Simply's Customs
Post by: Simply Indescribable on May 10, 2017, 12:05:48 PM
Started on Elle today while I see if Rochelle and Clawdeen's hair can be saved. Not looking too hopeful though, but at least there will be nice clean bald heads for the blank faces thread!
(https://i.imgur.com/SMjfU80.jpg)
Probably going to give her green eyes with gold lines to mimic computer chips, though I'm not sure if I want it fully green (like scleras too) or just the iris. Probably will quickly mock up both on my laptop and figure out which I like best.
Title: Re: Simply's Customs
Post by: Konzern on May 10, 2017, 12:13:19 PM
It looks really beautiful, like real lip gloss on her. :) Well, at least she isn't running off with them like mine does, I had to shut my loose ones away, Vetrix has some major issues with Venus! 

Elle's eyes sound really cool, I can't wait to see them!
Title: Re: Simply\'s Customs
Post by: DogMom on May 10, 2017, 03:54:27 PM
Who to work on next? Assign them each a number, put duplicate numbers into an opaque glass, pick a number! Let Chance decide!

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Love the Elle start! What a beautiful head she has!
Title: Re: Simply's Customs
Post by: Simply Indescribable on May 11, 2017, 06:09:21 AM
@Konzern: The Tamiya gloss is AMAZING, just paints right on. I did two layers for Lagoona, I think that's probably a good amount

(https://i.imgur.com/EVGmLR0.jpg)
Current ghouls in progress. Even with acetone, Clawdeen was a pain to wipe (so much glitter!). Elle was out drying and a gust of wind knocked her down and put a little scrape above her eyebrow :c. I'm hoping it scraped the sealant and not the vinyl, but I should be able to minimize the appearance of any damage.
I'm not sure if I'm going to keep their hair, it definitely looks better than when I first got them, but not as nice as I'd hope. I do need the wig practice though! Gotta figure out how to make caps for dolls with odd ears…
Title: Re: Simply's Customs
Post by: DogMom on May 11, 2017, 07:29:39 AM
So what are you using as a sealant/gloss? Is it brush on or spray on?
Title: Re: Simply's Customs
Post by: Simply Indescribable on May 11, 2017, 07:36:28 AM
So what are you using as a sealant/gloss? Is it brush on or spray on?
Sealant is the matte Mr. Super Clear spray, I use that as a base (three coats before starting the repaint work), and a spray between pencil layers. MSC comes in a gloss variant as well, but I wouldn't recommend it for faceups. If you do anything with bodies (like adding tattoos), the gloss might work better as a sealant there; I haven't tried it myself though.
The gloss is Tamiya Acrylic Gloss, which is painted on.
Title: Re: Simply's Customs
Post by: DogMom on May 11, 2017, 10:08:32 AM
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THANK YOU!!!!!
Title: Re: Simply's Customs
Post by: Simply Indescribable on May 11, 2017, 01:18:58 PM
THANK YOU!!!!!
Of course!
I think I saw you in a respiratory protection area on here, but if you use MSC or any spray, make sure you get a proper mask and filters! I don't believe one is needed for any of the brush-on sealants, but definitely look into it; safety is priority!

Forgot to mention, I get the UV Cut of MSC, so the dolls won't yellow from sun exposure
Title: Re: Simply's Customs
Post by: DogMom on May 11, 2017, 02:56:04 PM
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Which is why I was going to try the Liquitex…haven't yet bought a respirator, weather's been too cold.  But Chicago weather is starting to get pleasant, so that might happen before I sort out which Liquitex to get, lol. I got a Home Depot gift card for Xmas, so that's earmarked for a respirator/filters. Thank you for the filter heads up, appreciate it!
Title: Re: Simply's Customs
Post by: Simply Indescribable on May 11, 2017, 03:32:29 PM
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Which is why I was going to try the Liquitex…haven't yet bought a respirator, weather's been too cold.  But Chicago weather is starting to get pleasant, so that might happen before I sort out which Liquitex to get, lol. I got a Home Depot gift card for Xmas, so that's earmarked for a respirator/filters. Thank you for the filter heads up, appreciate it!
I don't know how well the Liquitex works, but I believe a similar product is being used in this video with not that great results
https://youtu.be/_GeVBDP5y2Y
Maybe Liquitex's formula is better than this though

Also Andreja (NicollesDreams on YT) has a video about spraying in humid/cold environments by using a toaster oven at like 90-100F for a while, it's worth looking up!
Title: Re: Simply's Customs
Post by: SaelaVe on May 12, 2017, 11:37:51 AM
Your dolls are looking fantastic, Simply!  Great job! :D



Which is why I was going to try the Liquitex…haven't yet bought a respirator, weather's been too cold.  But Chicago weather is starting to get pleasant, so that might happen before I sort out which Liquitex to get, lol. I got a Home Depot gift card for Xmas, so that's earmarked for a respirator/filters. Thank you for the filter heads up, appreciate it!
I don't know how well the Liquitex works, but I believe a similar product is being used in this video with not that great results
https://youtu.be/_GeVBDP5y2Y
Maybe Liquitex's formula is better than this though

Also Andreja (NicollesDreams on YT) has a video about spraying in humid/cold environments by using a toaster oven at like 90-100F for a while, it's worth looking up!

Simply is right on the money.  I'm replying now to your Liquitex question thread, but Liquitex varnish cannot be applied over watercolor pencils or pastels unless you water it down and airbrush it on.  I'll elaborate a little more in the other discussion so that I don't hijack Simply's thread. ^^;
Title: Re: Simply's Customs
Post by: Simply Indescribable on May 13, 2017, 05:14:18 AM
Elle's done!
(https://i.imgur.com/ia8GsmE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xJ9xi5U.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PkbfosP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eNQyfKu.jpg)
The eyes looked much better in my head (plus I kinda ruined them by getting the pencils wet), but I love the PearlEx in her face lines. Not sure if I like the false lashes, will have to cut them from the trios if I keep using them.
Haven't decided what to do for Rochelle, but I'm wanting to do a pastel goth look for Clawdeen. Unfortunately my pastels are garbage and won't stick well (Reeves brand from Michael's) so I ordered some Faber-Castells, which should be arriving next week.
Title: Re: Simply's Customs
Post by: DogMom on May 13, 2017, 09:34:26 AM
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Breathtaking! I DO like the lashes! And I love the dark smoky lip. Thanks for the closeup on her eyes, very striking. Please be sure to post a pic of her rebodied!
Title: Re: Simply's Customs [5/13 Elle Eedee Pg. 2!]
Post by: Simply Indescribable on January 11, 2018, 07:35:37 PM
Much appreciation to SaelaVe for reopening this ♥

As part of my New Years Resolution, which was to do more things that made me happy, I wanted to focus more time on customs, which have had to take a backseat due to the current state I'm in. Depression and motivation to be creative do not mix. However, I got a bunch of repaint materials for Christmas which gave me a little boost of inspiration, set aside some time, rewatched all of Mozekyto's wig videos on YouTube, and came up with a lovely wig for my Elle!

(https://i.imgur.com/mmX1EoU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/g0PrYbL.jpg)

First picture is before I trimmed it down a bit. For the first wig I've ever made, I'm extremely happy with it, though I do see areas I can improve on.

I would like to put her up for sale at some point, just have to figure out how to use Etsy.

Coming up next! These lovely ladies who have been waiting far too long for a finished face. Hopefully it won't be too cold and rainy so I can properly seal everything.
(https://i.imgur.com/FfV12LJ.jpg)

A huge thank you to those of you who supported me last year, it really means a lot!
Title: Re: Simply's Customs [5/13 Elle Eedee Pg. 2!]
Post by: SaelaVe on January 12, 2018, 01:34:50 PM
OMG, that wig is killer!! :dropjaw:
She looks absolutely amazing.  I'm in love! <3
Title: Re: Simply's Customs [5/13 Elle Eedee Pg. 2!]
Post by: Simply Indescribable on January 17, 2018, 01:53:13 AM
Thanks so much SaelaVe! ♥

I got around to getting some nicer photos and listing her on Etsy! (https://www.etsy.com/listing/587060843/ooak-monster-high-doll-elle-eedee)
It would be really cool if she actually sold, but I'm trying to be realistic about it and not get too excited.
(https://img.etsystatic.com/il/831f7f/1402636280/il_570xN.1402636280_ec3q.jpg)
(https://img.etsystatic.com/il/eb65ea/1402636116/il_570xN.1402636116_mrhl.jpg)

Behind the scenes:
(https://i.imgur.com/unn2QpO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eTn2UAH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ibg6qCH.jpg)
Title: Re: Simply's Customs [5/13 Elle Eedee Pg. 2!]
Post by: Simply Indescribable on January 22, 2018, 12:33:41 AM
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/2d953367481669f13abca57d7d487050/tumblr_p2xx80O1JE1wprg6eo1_1280.jpg)
Current WIPs~
Scarah has a little scar on the side of her left eye that I'm hoping I can mask somehow, and I nearly ruined Clawdeen by squeezing her head on accident and cracking the sealant all over. Somehow managed to save it by lightly dabbing it with a damp brush for a few hours. Still not sure how I managed to pull that off, and hoping it doesn't turn into a problem later!
Title: Re: Simply's Customs [5/13 Elle Eedee Pg. 2!]
Post by: flegin on January 22, 2018, 09:48:01 AM
I absolutely LOVE your Elle! The color choices are fantastic! Can't wait to see your WIPs finished. :)
Title: Re: Simply's Customs [5/13 Elle Eedee Pg. 2!]
Post by: dragonlady on January 22, 2018, 03:31:32 PM
I see you have a nosey kitty too, lol!

Elle's wig is awesome and I love how you did her face! Very pretty:)
Title: Re: Simply's Customs [5/13 Elle Eedee Pg. 2!]
Post by: Simply Indescribable on January 23, 2018, 03:28:32 AM
Thanks so much flegin and dragonlady! ♥

A preview of the Scarah I'm finishing up, hopefully tomorrow~
(https://i.imgur.com/QOPPoxG.jpg)
Title: Re: Simply's Customs [5/13 Elle Eedee Pg. 2!]
Post by: Simply Indescribable on January 24, 2018, 04:53:03 AM
And Scarah is finished and listed (https://www.etsy.com/listing/574972046/ooak-monster-high-doll-scarah-screams?ref=shop_home_active_1)!
(https://img.etsystatic.com/il/53a7d0/1456272531/il_570xN.1456272531_aam4.jpg)
(https://img.etsystatic.com/il/930e9a/1456272607/il_570xN.1456272607_q1ly.jpg)
Title: Re: Simply's Customs [1/24 Scarah Screams Pg. 2!]
Post by: neon_jellyfish on January 25, 2018, 10:44:44 AM
Classy!
Title: Re: Simply's Customs [1/24 Scarah Screams Pg. 2!]
Post by: flegin on January 25, 2018, 10:48:45 AM
She is gorgeous!
Title: Re: Simply's Customs [1/24 Scarah Screams Pg. 2!]
Post by: Simply Indescribable on January 31, 2018, 06:21:19 PM
Thank you both!
I need to work on Rochelle and Clawdeen and finish them up, and figure out how to make a wig cap for their odd heads, but RL is getting in the way. Hopefully soon!